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Great British Hobbit League

Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:26 pm

GREAT BRITISH INDEPENDENT HOBBIT SBG LEAGUE

Current Ranking: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... fYnc#gid=0

League Rules:
1. Registration
To register all you have to do is enter one of the tournaments. The results will be sent to the league. You do not have to register with your name, a nickname is fine, as long as people know who you are. The results will normally be published in an excel spreadsheet attached to a post on http://www.thelastalliance.com ; http://www.one-ring.co.uk and the 'Hobbit Events and Discussion' Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/472128942815892/


2. Tournaments
As of 24th September there are 9 tournaments which will count towards the league with potential 2 more.
1. Throne of Skulls, 8-9 February 2013. Details on GW website.
2. Close Encounters of the 3rd Age , 24th March, London. Link:
http://www.facebook.com/events/328869117214540/ viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6272
3. Grand Hobbit Championships, 20-21 April, Stockport. Link: http://www.facebook.com/events/196624337149140/?fref=ts viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6161
4. Battle Brothers, 8-9 June at Warhammer World in Nottingham. Details on GW website.
5. The Hobbit Tournament in East Grinstead, 29th June. Link: https://www.facebook.com/events/511842125538475/?ref=2
6. Grand Hobbits Defense in Stockport, 27-28 July. Link: https://www.facebook.com/events/500228466693018/?ref=2
7. The Longbottom Carnival in London, 25-26 August. Link: https://www.facebook.com/events/358544150916506/
8. The Battle for Middle England in Preston, 26-27 October. Link: https://www.facebook.com/events/157907687745189/?ref=2
9. The Scouring of Stirlingshire in Sitrling, 30 Nov - 1 Dec. Link: https://www.facebook.com/events/6448007 ... 9/?fref=ts
10. TBC (Probably Jan)
11. TBC (Probably Feb/Mar)

To view the Facebook events you probably have to join the Facebook group. It's a closed group, so please apply to join if you haven't yet and you're interested in playing at these tournaments.

To enter a tournament into the league you must notify the league at least 1 month in advance to allow players to prepare travel, accommodation, holidays, armies, etc.
Each tournament has its own outlined rules and as of today there are no specific restrictions other than the smallest number of points being 300 and the biggest 1000. Tournaments may be played with 1 army or 2, depending on the rules of each.


3. Ranking
The winner of each tournament is rewarded 100 points towards their league score and the BEST events scores will be counted in the year are counted for each player. The averages counted are below:
1 Tournament = 1 Best tournament
2 Tournaments = 2 Best tournaments
3 Tournaments = 2 Best tournaments
4 Tournaments = 3 Best tournaments
5 Tournaments = 3 Best tournaments
6 Tournaments = 4 Best tournaments
7 Tournaments = 4 Best tournaments
8+ Tournaments = 5 Best tournaments



Points Scoring

The points towards the league are scored in the following manner:
Winner = 100
2nd = 100 – 1/X *100
3rd = 100 – 2/X *100
4th = 100 – 3/X *100
etc.
X is the number of players. Let’s assume there are 20 players at a tournament.
Winner receives 100
2nd receives 100 – 1/20 *100 = 100 – 5 = 95
3rd receives (based on the above) = 90

If there were 15 players:
Winner receives 100
2nd receives 100 – 1/15*100 = 100 – 6.66 = 94.4
3rd receives 86.7
Hope this makes sense

If a player attended a 2 day tournament (like the one in Stockport) and played only on 1 day, the following rules apply:
Players who have played only 1 day are tallied up, winner of these players receives 50 points and the rest are counted in the manner of 50 – 1/X*50, where X is the number of players who played on 1 day.
After that all players are tallied up into the main tournament group and receive points as normal. However, the players who have played only on 1 day do not receive any points on top of their initial 1-day score.
Updated rankings will be published in an Excel Spreadsheet in the League threads on http://www.thelastalliance.com ; http://www.one-ring.co.uk and The New UK Lord of the Rings Championships Facebook Page here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/472128942815892/

4. FAQ, Errata
The official FAQ and Errata release by Games Workshop stands as the overruling source for all debates.
The TLA Tournament FAQ (to be published soon and in preparation by Hixont, Matt-ShadowLord and BlackMist. Of course all contributions to it will be welcome once it's posted here) is the 2nd highest source of authority in the league.
If the above two have not cleared up the answers please ask a referee.
If a referee isn’t present please roll a dice, on 1-3 one player is right, on 4-6 the other. Subsequently send the question to hobbit.ukleague@gmail.com

Updated 24th September 2013
BlackMist - 2 times UK LotR Champion.
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Re: Great British Hobbit League

Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:04 pm

This is a great idea. Anything that generates interest and excitement in SBG should be supported. If new (or potential) players see that there is a thriving community with well supported events we'll see a growth in the numbers, and that's better for everyone.

I really like the idea of a universal system that covers a wide range of points values, 1 or 2 army events and 1 or 2 day events. It gives tournament organisers a lot of scope to plan the best event that they can, and to mix things up a bit. SBG is a system that scales so well from low to high points values and we should embrace that as it makes the game so much more accessible than other systems.

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Re: Great British Hobbit League

Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:07 pm

I am excited that this is actually happening and with a scoring system that makes sense!
I think you are right to limit the number of tournies that count towards the average.

If you have a crap tournament then there is more incentive to attend another one :)

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Re: Great British Hobbit League

Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:15 pm

So I suppose since there are no suggested changes, we can start off from the 24th March.

End of the season awards also given for
a) Overall Winner
b) Most Sporting Player (the person who receives the most sportsmanship votes across best X tournaments)
c) Painter of the Season (the person who wins most best painted competitions)

As for the budget for awards... we'll come up with something :D Maybe 5% from each tournament going to the main pool for the trophies for these.
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Re: Great British Hobbit League

Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:54 am

It would be better to find sponsors for prizes if you wanted to hand them out. Our last tournament only just broke even as we had to invest in new terrain. We have been fortunate in the past to get prizes donated by our LGS.

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Re: Great British Hobbit League

Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:18 pm

Please post here details of the gaming centres and venues which you think could be good to add to this. Please post contact details and I will start approaching places slowly and try to figure out a way to add them into the league. 10 tournaments in a year are not impossible, just need the community to get involved. This is your league guys, it's up to you to make it work, I'm just coordinating the start of it.
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Re: Great British Hobbit League

Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:37 pm

One question - is there any intention to have Best in Faction standings? So you have the normal rankings, but in addition a player could be the Best Gondor Player. Of course, you'd need to decide upon how you break down the factions, how you determine which faction a list belongs to if it has allies, etc., so it may be more trouble than it's worth. But it could add an extra little edge within the league - it would incentivise a mix of armies, in an effort to compete for a certain 'Best in Faction' award. Just a suggestion - what do people think?

In addition, is there any intention to attempt to integrate ranked results at GW tournaments into this? For example, I believe Battle Brothers will be a ranked event. And for that matter, will any Doubles events contribute to this?
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Re: Great British Hobbit League

Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:56 pm

can always use my club in Chatham, but I expect its to far south for most to want to attend. It's also to far away from a train station and a bit out of the way, although we could arrange pick-ups.

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Re: Great British Hobbit League

Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:06 pm

Lotrchampion wrote:One question - is there any intention to have Best in Faction standings? So you have the normal rankings, but in addition a player could be the Best Gondor Player. Of course, you'd need to decide upon how you break down the factions, how you determine which faction a list belongs to if it has allies, etc., so it may be more trouble than it's worth. But it could add an extra little edge within the league - it would incentivise a mix of armies, in an effort to compete for a certain 'Best in Faction' award. Just a suggestion - what do people think?

Yeah I thought about that and thought it would be easiest by books, but the army lists would have to be throughoutly checked just to make sure people are not making any mistakes.

Fallen Realms
Free People
Mordor
Kingdoms of Men
Moria & Angmar
Hobbit Good
Hobbit Evil
Best Good mixed
Best Evil mixed

In addition, is there any intention to attempt to integrate ranked results at GW tournaments into this? For example, I believe Battle Brothers will be a ranked event. And for that matter, will any Doubles events contribute to this?

Certainly not ToS because that had nothing to do with ranking as far as I know. And doubles ranking looks pretty terrible. Basing ranking on battle victory points in the current system while using random scenarios for each player, allowing possibilities of player a) playing 5 times a scenario which scores maximum of 12 points and player b) 5 times a scenario that awards up to 100 points? If the scenario is drawn for all players together and we can get a scoresheet at the end then I don't see why not. If everybody plays different scenario in the same round then a one very big NO to this.

Hithero wrote:can always use my club in Chatham, but I expect its to far south for most to want to attend. It's also to far away from a train station and a bit out of the way, although we could arrange pick-ups.

Can you give me the post code or street name in Chatham? How many regulars do you have? I guess there could be a few from around London/SE willing to attend for 1 day. Are you coming to the 300pts event btw? It looks promising at the moment. Take Paul and both Andrews with you!
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Re: Great British Hobbit League

Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:43 pm

I believe Battle Brothers follows the same format as Throne of Skulls for scenarios - the entire hall play the same scenario each round, and each scenario is only played once.

Throne of Skulls is easy to rank overall - just order by the player's achievement against the average for their faction, and you get an overall ranking. But it is a deviation from the norm in that regard.
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