All Books Discussion and Questions

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All Books Discussion and Questions

Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:48 pm

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Re: All Books Discussion and Questions

Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:00 am

All scenarios:

You gain 1 VP per wound caused on enemy leader.
You gain 3 VP for killing the leader.

What if Balrog is the leader of the army?
If you caused 9 wounds you score 9VP and if you scored 10 wounds you score 3VP?
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Re: All Books Discussion and Questions

Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:32 am

Which new profiles are there in the new books?

New profiles:
Bill the Pony
High Elf Stormcaller*
Knight of the White Tower
King's Huntsman
Great Beast of Gorgoroth
Ashrâk
Grôblog
The Watcher in the Water
Angmar Orc Shaman
Dweller in the Dark

(It should also be mentioned that whilst not a new profile, Gandalf's Cart becomes available as well)

Upgraded profiles for existing warriors:
King's Guard (High Elf Warrior)
Noldorin Exile (Wood Elf Warrior)
Galadhrim Guard (Galadhrim Warrior)
Galadhrim Knights Elite (Galadhrim Knights)
Mirkwood Guard (Wood Elf Warrior)
Hearthguard (Dwarf Warrior)
Iron Hills Veteran (Dwarf Warrior/Dwarf Ranger)
Tookish Hunter (Hobbit Archer)
Battlin' Brandybuck (Hobbit Militia)
Ithilien Guard (Warrior of Minas Tirith)
Ranger of Ithilien (Ranger of Gondor)
Helmingas (Warrior of Rohan)**
Westfold Redshield (Rider of Rohan)
Orc Captain of Dol Guldur (Orc Captain)
Dol Guldur Orc Shaman (Mordor Orc Shaman)
Orc of Dol Guldur (Orc Warrior)
Venom-back Spider (Giant Spider)
Marauder (Uruk-hai scout)**
Warrior of Abrakhân (Haradrim Warrior)
Warrior of Kârna (Haradrim Warrior)
Abrakhân Raider (Haradrim Raider)
Castellan of Umbar (Black Númenórean)
Venomblade Knight (Black Númenórean)
Black Dragon (Easterling Warrior/Easterling Kataphrakt)



Profiles that are no longer available:
Faramir, Captain of Gondor***
Khandish Mercenary Chieftain***
Khandish Mercenary Warrior***
Khandish Mercenary Horseman***


Models without profiles:
Uruk-hai Scout Drummer


Notes:
Orcish races no longer have access to war horns
Several profiles have been renamed (Ex: Galadriel, lady of the Galadhrim becomes Galadriel, Protectress of Lothlórien)
*New profile, the Galadhrim Stormcaller still exists
**Already existed, listed here for the sake of completeness
***Existing models can still be used with different profiles. (Ex: Faramir, Captain of Gondor can be used as Faramir, Captain of Ithilien)
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Re: All Books Discussion and Questions

Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:17 am

BlackMist wrote:All scenarios:

You gain 1 VP per wound caused on enemy leader.
You gain 3 VP for killing the leader.

What if Balrog is the leader of the army?
If you caused 9 wounds you score 9VP and if you scored 10 wounds you score 3VP?


Read it again BM.

"You score 1VP for causing one or more wounds on the enemy leader... If you kill the enemy leader, you instead score 3VP."

So if you wound a Balrog 9 times, you still only get 1VP. If you kill them you get 3VP. The bit about fate in the middle makes this slightly confusing I think.
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Re: All Books Discussion and Questions

Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:20 pm

Clarification on the Lords of Battle scenario would be nice. Seems like it should mention only multi-wound models in the first objective. If the current rule is correct that is a serious kick in the face to swarms and robs the scenario of most of the hero vs hero feel that I think its supposed to have.
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Re: All Books Discussion and Questions

Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:24 pm

The Black Sword wrote:Clarification on the Lords of Battle scenario would be nice. Seems like it should mention only multi-wound models in the first objective. If the current rule is correct that is a serious kick in the face to swarms and robs the scenario of most of the hero vs hero feel that I think its supposed to have.

Jep and in the introduction text they say that hero's are the most important here, but they are not...
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Re: All Books Discussion and Questions

Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:36 am

FAQ question: does everybody get a hand weapon? Looks like it, since it's never mentioned and models like the Clansmen and Arbalests no longer specify they don't.

This makes the disconnect between Khand and Gondor/Numenor even greater.

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Re: All Books Discussion and Questions

Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:19 am

Refer to page 42 of the Rulebook.

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Re: All Books Discussion and Questions

Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:44 am

The Black Sword wrote:Clarification on the Lords of Battle scenario would be nice. Seems like it should mention only multi-wound models in the first objective. If the current rule is correct that is a serious kick in the face to swarms and robs the scenario of most of the hero vs hero feel that I think its supposed to have.

in the italian books we have the same doubt: the scenario means to be heroes vs heroes, but "everytime one MODEL gains a wound or uses a fate point, you gain 1 victory point..."

the scenario is crearly about heroes. they even gain one might point for every enemy hero they kill..

what are you going to do in tournaments concerning this scenario?
here in italy we have to decide for our tournaments and i want to know ideas from other countries ;)

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Re: All Books Discussion and Questions

Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:07 pm

In the scenarios listed at the back of each book with listed models, can the listed heroes lead a warband, or do the listed points need to be solely independant of the named heroes.
This is leads to, if they can lead, can heroes such as Aragorn lead Riders of Rohan in scenarios such as the charge out of Helms Deep, or is this limited to characters from the Rohan selection.

Can characters have full uprgrades aswell in these selections (unless specified otherwise)?

In the Relief of Helms Deep, it just mentions Gandalf. We can assume this is Gandalf the White, but because of the current lack of Sorcerous Blast, can Gandalf the Grey be taken instead?

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